Archive for September, 2008
Bob: You know Andy, I can easily imagine you doing a rug series―large silkscreens of designs from all over the world―Mexico, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, Iran. Aren’t you tired of Americana? Why not explore other countries? One day you could have factories in Marrakesh, Istanbul, Mexico City, Kabul, Tehran―wherever they make rugs.
Andy: That’s an interesting idea, but I’ve always thought of myself as an American artist.
Bob: Instead of one Factory, you’d have many factories. Instead of one artist, you would be many, many artists.
Andy: If I ever go international, I’d like to do it the American way, like McDonald’s.
Bob: You’d transform your business art into an international brand.
Andy: I don’t think we could sell too many rugs. They look great in windows, but if I started hanging them on the wall, I think I’d stop liking them. Maybe it needs to be something other than rugs.
Bob: Like what?
Andy: Like maybe those camouflage uniforms soldiers wear. They’re more modern.
Bob: Is that how you chose your other icons, like the soup cans and the dollar bills? You started with one thing and then found something like it that you liked better?
Andy: Not really. You can’t live without soup or money or movie stars, not in this country. But a rug? Well, you can take it or leave it. Carpets are more practical. Rugs I like when they’re just hanging in shop windows. What would I look at when I’m coming down Fifth Avenue?
Bob: You could make them really big, even fill the entire gallery wall, like your cow patterns.
Andy: It sounds like an idea you’d like to do.
*A fictional dialogue between Andy Warhol and Robert Smithson from Warhol’s Dream by Saul Anton.
Lars: If man had been physically able to give birth, men would have been better mothers. Girls aren’t cool. They can be pretty or “cute,” and with some serious dieting, even sexy. They can be nice. Dumb, but nice. But who wants “nice”? You want interesting people around you. Has a girl ever introduced you to any new music or recommended a book you didn’t already read in high school? Anything just slightly outside the mainstream? If so, she got it from an ex, her brother, her father. They just pretend. It’s worse here. On the East Side, they know they’re underprivileged. Here they think they have to have an opinion. And intrude on adult conversations…
Erik: Still, girls have to be busy with something, too? At least all the boys have an interest they become absorbed in. If it’s music, a band. If it’s football, it’s something. I don’t know what but there’s something. But what are girls into?
Lars: Horses and menstruation.
Erik: Okay, but not all girls are like that. You’ve got to agree with me on that.
Lars: No. Bullshit. Feeling guilty is slave mentality. Sometimes you have to be Zarathustra. Be mean.